Trader Skills #19: Explorations in 2R

– The Risk of Ruin chart below clearly shows how difficult it is to blow an account getting 2:1 actual or initial risk.

A hit rate of <40% is actually very difficult with good signal bars and basic leg counting / breakout knowledge

– If anything, most newer traders have high hit rates (scalping / closing before targets) but have largest loss > largest win and average loss > average win..

– So should we all just trade for 2R targets?

– As a scalper I certainly want to improve my average win size in points, but not be in the market for so many bars.

15m vs 60m 2R

– What does a 5m chart look like in relationship to 2R targets on HTF?

– This indicator I wrote uses IBS and body size for filters

– Reasonable IBS and at least 40% body size to measure the signals

Bull trend day

– Bulls hit everything

BL trend day – the wedge top was 3 15m 2R targets

Bear trend day

– Bears hit everything

Up and Sideways Day

– Bulls hit 60m 2R and a couple of 15m 2R, BR can’t get anything

Down and Sideways Day

– Open just above and hit 60m BR target 1st hour

– BR get a couple of 2R 15m

– Just before 60m target strong reversal

– BL surprise got a 2R – back to LOYD (Low of yesterday)

– Sideways

Down and sideways – 3 15m 2R and 1 60m 2R
Similar

So what is a TRD?

– 60m 2LSW pullback before a Leg 3?

– HTF TTR

Only one target until the end of the session!

If we look at the HTF for comparison and context

BR spike, 2LSWU on 60m chart = TTR on 15m and nonsense on the 5m 🙂

Opening at a 60m 2R target

– Seems to indicate a trap open

BL Trap HOD BR TFO from a 60m 2R on the open
3 Good 60m BL 2R… then melting

– But not always – here an overshoot test and more down

BR 60m 2R overshoot test back and more down
Overshoot and more down

Relationship between 2R and 1R

One thing I’m not clear on is, ok, yay for pattern recognition.

But can I trade it?

– Does getting a 2R mean I should keep going or does it mean stop?

– Chart below BR got 2R then trapped?

– BL got 2 lots of 15m targets then finished for the day?

5m BR get 2:1, but then 15m BLs two good targets and bail out… we test back to where bears got stopped out… hmm

Research is ongoing!

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